WHY JESUS DID NOT PLAINLY SAY HE WAS GOD? We heard the people who are desperate to make Jesus their God quoting Phrases:I am the Resurrection & Life; I am the way the truth;I am the bread of life etc. Do they now forget that Jesus used to speaks in parables? to conceal the message to his enemies [Mark 4:10-12] but did he always conceald the Message to them? No! When he speaks Plainly to his Disciples he made it Cleared to them that HE WAS SENT BY GOD & IN NO ACCOUNT DID HE EVER SAYS THAT HE IS GOD TO THE CHRISTIANS! [JOHN 16:25-33] Why does it take the Christians World 3 good Centuries in order to make a Man..God? June 21st 325AD is the Year that Jesus Won the Election a become a god of the Christians world.Take Note that this Election took place without his consents. JESUS IS RIGHT ABOUT YOU CHRISTIANS ON PAUL [John 5:43-44]. Jesus clearly said GOD SENT ME [John 12:49 and 7:16] yet the Christians say No he is not telling the truth,that he was God he just dont want u to understand.What about JOHN 18:20-21? 20 â€œI have spoken openly to the world,â€Jesus replied. â€œI always taught in synagogues or at the temple, where all the Jews come together. I said nothing in secret. 21 Why question me? Ask those who heard me. Surely they know what I said.â€ #Does Jesus mean what he said here?
Janet Hanifan: Although the title Son of Man may seem fairly innocuous, it is, in fact, a title of the Messiah, of whom the book of Daniel claims that all people will serve and that His kingdom would never end:I kept looking in the night visions, And behold, with the clouds of heaven One like a Son of Man was coming, And He came up to the Ancient of Days And was presented before Him. And to Him was given dominion, Glory and a kingdom, That all the peoples, nations, and men of every language Might serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion Which will not pass away; And His kingdom is one Which will not be destroyed. (Daniel 7:13-14)Obviously, if the Son of Man were only human, He would not be able to establish an eternal kingdom. Likewise, He would not be able to convince all peoples to serve Him. Such abilities and honors are reserved for God alone.
Abdul Qayyum: Logic — does God need someone to gave him the kingdom, God supposed to own everything, God doesnt need someone to support him… ðŸ˜†
Abdul Waheed Khatri: Who gave him the kingdom? Where does it say he established an eternal kingdom? Ever lasting kingdom? So this means the hour is never coming. …See more
Janet Hanifan: Virtually all cults will acknowledge that Jesus is the Son of God, as if the title confers no special meaning or only second class status. This assumption is unrealistic, since no other prophet ever called himself the Son of God. The Jewish leaders of the time knew exactly what this title implied – that Jesus was claiming to be God Himself:For this cause therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God. (John 5:18)Claiming to be the Son of God also conferred the title of Messiah or the anointed One. Psalm 2 talks about the Messiah (mashiach), whom it says is Gods Son.12 This great messianic Psalm warns the reader to do homage to the Son and take refuge in Him,13 since He will rule the nations and judge the earth.14
Abdul Qayyum: Jesus lord of Sabbath ðŸ˜œ- In these passages, we see Jesus himself explained why he broke the Sabbath. It is not because he is GOD Almighty. He never claimed it, and it is indeed a lie. It is rather because the Sabbath was broken before by Moses, D…See more
Nisar Ahmed: Who told u every prophet called son of god in English, the language doesnt existed at the time of prophets
Abdul Waheed Khatri: Son of God refers to slave of God as well.The Jews did not know about Psalm 2 speaking about the messaih? …See more
Janet Hanifan: The Bible says that Jesus is the Christ, or Messiah – the anointed One of God. Jesus Himself made the claim or acknowledged that He was the Messiah.15 The title is especially significant with regard to the question at hand – is Jesus God? The Old Testament tells us that the Messiah is God and the eternal Father:For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. (Isaiah 9:6)
Abdul Qayyum: Jesus never once called himself Mighty God while he walked this earth Show me maybe I overlooked ðŸ˜œ
Nisar Ahmed: Show me in bible were Jesus called him self Christ or a single word called bible, tell me the meaning of chirst, what it means,
Janet Hanifan: Nisar Ahmed Christâ€ comes from the Greek word Christos, meaning â€œanointed oneâ€ or â€œchosen one.â€ This is the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew word Mashiach, or â€œMessiah.â€ â€œJesusâ€ is the Lordâ€™s human name given to Mary by the angel Gabriel (Luke 1:31). â€œ…See more
Janet Hanifan: Nisar Ahmed Bible | Define Bible at Dictionary.comwww.dictionary.com/browse/bible…See more
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Abdul Qayyum: Janet HanifanI wonder if you read my question //Jesus never once called himself Mighty God while he walked this earth …See more
Janet Hanifan: Abdul Qayyum Foolish question! 😛
Abdul Qayyum: Janet HanifanYou make a claim Jesus was Mighty God, when you failed to show me where Jesus himself called himself as Mighty God you blame me ðŸ˜œðŸ˜œ
Nisar Ahmed: Janet Hanifan show me in your bible were he claimed divinity, & wer is your orginal bible, all u have is curupted revised edition book, Jesus or Christ all this name given by u not by the creater, did this language exist in prophet time, how could u make him lord who r u to decide or declare his as lord when he himsef dint say
Janet Hanifan: Nisar Ahmed Jesus said If you have seen me, you have seen the Father!John 14: 8Philip said to Him, â€œLord, show us the Father, and that will be enough for us.â€ 9Jesus replied, â€œPhilip, I have been with you all this time, and still you do not know Me?…See more
Janet Hanifan: Nisar Ahmed John 1:14The Word became flesh and made His dwelling among us. We have seen His glory, the glory of the one and only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth….See more
Janet Hanifan: Nisar Ahmed Our Bible has not changed since the time of Muhammad! And it is backed up by original scripture!Faheem Khan, a practicing muslim…See more
Nisar Ahmed: Janet Hanifan show me a single orginal bible. U have only revised edition with 50000 thousand errors do u want the proof
Nisar Ahmed: Janet Hanifan why god has only son, why he had to b in a women womb, is he so week. He had descended directly no need of any help, do god wants flesh, then why he didnt protect himsef
Abdul Qayyum: Janet Hanifan Bible not change? Oh really??? Since 1611 – till yesterday Bible has gone through 5 major revisions.. I wonder what are they doing to the Bible.. errrrr ðŸ˜±ðŸ˜±
Janet Hanifan: Jesus claimed that His origins are from heaven, whereas men are from the world:And no one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven, even the Son of Man. (John 3:13)And He was saying to them, You are from below, I am from above; you are of this world, I am not of this world. (John 8:23)Not only did Jesus claim to come from heaven, but He said that it was my kingdom Isnt heaven Gods kingdom?that you may eat and drink at My table in My kingdom, and you will sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel. (Luke 22:30)Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting, that I might not be delivered up to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm. (John 18:36)
Abdul Qayyum: Every souls came from God in heaven, hence Im not surprised if Jesus said he came from heaven..Luke 22:30– if his 12 disciples judging the 12 tribes of Israelites, I wonder where are Paul and his Pauline fits in when the disciples judging the 12 tribes of Israelites ðŸ˜†ðŸ˜†ðŸ˜†
Janet Hanifan: Jesus claimed to have existed before He was born in Bethlehem:I tell you the truth, Jesus answered, before Abraham was born, I am! At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds. (John 8:58-59)The claim included the term I am – a reference God made of Himself when talking to Moses.17 The Jews immediately recognized that Jesus was claiming to be God and attempted to stone Him.Jesus also claimed to have existed before the world began:And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began. (John 17:5)
Abdul Qayyum: Ego eimi [â€œI amâ€] does not identify Jesus with God, but it does draw attention to him in the strongest possible terms. â€œI am the oneâ€”the one you must look at, and listen to, if you would know God.â€ -The phrase â€œI amâ€ occurs many other times in the Ne…See more
Nisar Ahmed: Then why did all the prophets dint pray to him why his name dint apper in old testimony,
Abdul Qayyum: â€˜Son of Godâ€™ does not mean that Jesus shares Godâ€™s nature. Son of God, the term has been used many times in Old Testament, but nowhere does it imply that the person shares YHWHâ€™S nature. Here are the following passages where the term is used: Genesis…See more
Savior Joseph: There is a difference between MY FIRST BORN SON and I EXISTED BEFORE THE WORLD WAS CREATED.There is also difference between SON (SUN) and SONS (stars)…See more
Abdul Qayyum: Mathew 12:18 Behold my servant [ Jesus ] whom I have chosen ðŸ˜œ
Nisar Ahmed: Savior Joseph why should Muslim lie, b r not taught to say lie its ur church had taught to say lie & depend on false curupted revised edition bible which is not the words of creater ALLAH,
Savior Joseph: It is easy to condemn what you did not witness yourself to be currupt or lies.we were not there when the scriptures were written, so, ofcourse you can said that all that is written are all lies….See more
Savior Joseph: Have you been to a place and stayed there to earn a living, where none of your family members or relatives are there, just you alone?if you have not done that, you will find it difficult to experience the God of the Bible. He is REAL and LOVABLE to be in his presence at all the time.
Nisar Ahmed: Savior Joseph ur this long conversation dint mean anything, tell me have u got orginal bible wer is it, what u got is not a single word from orginal all u have is, 2000 revised bible, with 50000 thousand errors, how any one can believe it. And did the …See more
Nisar Ahmed: Savior Joseph every living being including small creatures, r beeing fed by ALLAH the creater, wether he belive him or reject him. ALLAH never do unjustc to any of his creation
Savior Joseph: Like i said, whatever you are saying here is based on what you read or being told by someone. we were not there when these things happened and recorded. whether you believe it or not is not the question. The REAL question is what is your experience w…See more
Nisar Ahmed: Savior Joseph its better for u to watch moves only, what bullshit r u saying dont b in illusion world come to real world, if u imagin, if u think, what all this, our belaved prophet also sayed the same, every one has to love me more than ur parents, it means v call him god or son of god. B practical v dont want ur this & that of imgiation
Savior Joseph: Have you seen your prophet before?
Savior Joseph: How did you came to know about your prophet?lets see if im wrong.
Savior Joseph: Is there any muslims who is bold enough to tell me how he came to know about muhammad of islam?
Nisar Ahmed: Savior Joseph r u mad am I old 1439 yers, come to the point dont run away from the main issue ok have u seen ur god???
Nisar Ahmed: Savior Joseph Yes iam bold enough, because v have orginal quran it mention our belaved prophet & all the prophets now same question I pose to u how do u came to know of ur Jesus is any one bold enough to tell me u have orginal bible
Savior Joseph: Everybody Claims their books is the original. you were not there when the koran was written. so, i can i say to you that all that is in the koran is false. What is your personal experience with your Allah?
Abdul Qayyum: I wonder why Christians till this very still reconstruct/ revising the Bible from 1611-up to yesterday and they claimed they filled with Holy Spirit yet they NEVER come to ONE AGREEMENT ABOUT THEY BELIEFS AND BIBLE ðŸ˜œ
Savior Joseph: Talk to me about yourself. what is your experience with your Allah.
Abdul Qayyum: Is God the author of confusion? ðŸ˜œ
Savior Joseph: That is the best you can come up with about your experiece with your Allah. Its a pity.
Nisar Ahmed: Savior Joseph the same question apply to u what u will say who is ur creater. And bring the proof quran is false bring a single evednce I will do what u want, then whom did prophet Jesus peace b upon him prayed to. Have u got ur original bible bring it I will show u how much error r in ur book
Savior Joseph: You want me to lead then you will follow, right?
Abdul Qayyum: Why need to reconstruct and revise the Bible, is God the author of confusion? ðŸ˜œ
Savior Joseph: Which one is the original?
Savior Joseph: since you said it was reconstructed, then you should tell me the original one. can you be bold enough to tell me the original?
Abdul Qayyum: Savior JosephYou should answer your scholars why Christians need reconstruct the Bible since 1611 till yesterday Bible has gone through 5 major revisions and different denominations Church and cults have their own Bible according to their understanding and beliefs ðŸ˜‚
Savior Joseph: You are the one complaining. The Scholars have not said anything to me.so, which one is the original?
Abdul Qayyum: Savior JosephLOL why needs to revise and reconstruct the Bible from time to time? Is God the author of confusion? You answer that for me
Savior Joseph: your allah is blind. i dont reconstruct Bibles.
Nisar Ahmed: Savior Joseph then whom did prophet Jesus peace b upon him prayed, u itself dont reconstruct ur bible how can u reconstruct when u r not having ur original book one thing, u dont have to reconstruct, its being re written every year with new idiya
Savior Joseph: I dont know about the prophet you are talking about. who is he?
Nisar Ahmed: Savior Joseph u dont know whom ur following great
Savior Joseph: i dont know. so its up to you to prove to me that you know him. do you know him?
Nisar Ahmed: Savior Joseph if u dont know then whom do u r praying who created u come to Islam u will get the answer to all ur question
Savior Joseph: what is islam?
Nisar Ahmed: Savior Joseph Islam means peace
Savior Joseph: Borno state is dominated by your islam and Bokoharam is cousing havoc in the name of islam. is that what you mean by peace?
Savior Joseph: Talk is cheap. you dont just come on air and feed people with lies. everyone knows the lies islam is promoting.
Nisar Ahmed: Savior Joseph its so poor is ur IQ its u Christian killing in the name of crusade u even killed ur god & hanged him on the wall on cross A simple meaning of Islam is not known to u if u had taken a dictionary it would have told u what is islam means, try next time
Savior Joseph: actions speaks louder than words.why cant you talk about yourself? all you know is gossip and hearsay from your fake dawah scholars.
Abdul Qayyum: JOHN 18:20-21?20 â€œI have spoken openly to the world,â€Jesus replied. â€œI always taught in synagogues or at the temple, where all the Jews come together. I said nothing in secret.21 Why question me? Ask those who heard me. Surely they know what I said.â€#Does mean what he said here? Or Jesus is lying here ðŸ˜‰
Abdul Qayyum: What did Jesus told the Jew from the very beginning Did Jesus told the Jew that he is God in John 18:20:21?
Parveez Ahmed: God is one, how many times did Jesus rebuke people for trying to call him God, lots of statements in the Holy Bible clearly indicating Jesus acknowledging the Gods supremacy.
Parveez Ahmed: I know bible better then you,Where jesus said i am God worship me?Bible said God never die and seen.Why you still believe jesus is God, according to bible Jesus was killed and seen.Bible said God is not a man, but you still believe man is God and you are worshipping him.
Meara Feely Harrington: When Jesus appeared to the Apostles after the Resurrection, Saint Thomas declared to him â€œMy Lord and my God!â€ Did Jesus correct him? No. He said â€œblessed are they who believe and do not see (my wounds).
Abdul Waheed Khatri: When Jesus was with the disciples he said My Father is greater than I, I Am yet to ascend to my Father and Your father, My God and your God. Why do you call me Good for only God is truly Good. He was reluctant on being called good.
Meara Feely Harrington: Abdul Waheed Khatri then why did Jesus not correct Thomas?
Abdul Qayyum: Meara Feely Harrington which account is correctLuke or John…? In Luke account all the disciples are present and Jesus was ascended on the same day! In John account only 10 disciples are present and some 8 days Jesus returns to upper room and meet doubting Thomas… Why is that?
Abdul Qayyum: Which account speaking the truth ðŸ˜‚
Abdul Waheed Khatri: Meara Feely Harrington The point which needs to be established first is did Thomas even utter these words? Is the complete incident mentioned or points missing? If Yes, then we have evidence of Jesus worshipping God as well. How does God worship?…See more
Abdul Waheed Khatri: According to Luke the 2 disciples were in Emmaus when it was nearly evening with Jesus. When they recognized its Jesus they made their way back to Jerusalem at once. According to John it was evening when Jesus appeared to the disciples. Surely they di…See more
Abdul Qayyum: if you read John chapter 20: 19-28 in it context, * it was EXCLAMATION MARK made by doubting Thomas!Context!When Jesus first appearance to his 10 disciples doubting Thomas was not around,After Jesus left them, the others disciples told Thomas that Jesus came to them! And Thomas say he will not believe as recorded at v-2525 So the other disciples told him, â€œWe have seen the Lord!â€But he said to them, â€œUnless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side,I will not believe.â€Here is Jesus second appearance where all his 11 disciples were present including doubting Thomas!26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, â€œPeace be with you!â€ 27 Then he said to Thomas, â€œPut your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.â€It clear that it was a Exclamation mark made by Thomas here28 Thomas said to him, â€œMy Lord and my God!â€If we read gospel of Luke Jesus first appearance to his disciples, all his 11 disciples were present including doubting Thomas and the best thing is according to gospel of Luke Jesus was ascended to heaven on the very same day that he appears to them @ Luke 24: 50-53so it clear the two narratives contradict each other! How come the Holy Spirit that inspired Luke and John didnt know the difference between one day and 8 days. ðŸ˜·ðŸ˜·ðŸ˜·
Abdul Qayyum: If we read gospel of Luke Jesus first appearance to his disciples, all his 11 disciples were present including doubting Thomas and the best thing is according to gospel of Luke Jesus was ascended to heaven on the very same day that he appears to them @ Luke 24: 50-53so it clear the two narratives contradict each other! How come the Holy Spirit that inspired Luke and John didnt know the difference between one day and 8 days. ðŸ˜·ðŸ˜·ðŸ˜·
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William Burton: For those interested Jesus did plainly say He was God the Son (Son of God) making Himself equal with God.The Jews (religious rulers of the day) knew exaclty that Christ claimed equality with God the Father and wanted to kill him for that blasphemy.JESUS SAID: I and the Father are one. 31The Jews took up stones again to stone Him. 32Jesus answered them, I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me? 33The Jews answered Him, For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God, (John 10:30-33)And again:JESUS SAID IN John 8:56-59, Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad. 57The Jews therefore said to Him, You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham? 58Jesus said to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I AM. 59Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself, and went out of the temple.THe Jews hated hearing Jesus say he knew Abraham and was before Abraham claiming to to be greater than Abraham and an eternal being.
Nisar Ahmed: Wer did in bible Jesus claim divinity show a single paraghraph
Abdul Qayyum: Oh really? I and my father are one therefore Jesus is God.. Now let us use the same# logic in John 17:21– the same Jesus says he +12 disciples + the Father are ONE.. I wonder why Christians dont consider the disciples of Jesus as part GOD ðŸ˜‚